Jeremy Soul Day Game Workshop - San Francisco, Feb
Written by Rob, in Livermore
On February 2010
Overall rating (weighted)
5.0
Overall experience
5.0
Worth the investment
5.0
Reproducible in real life
5.0
Ratio and attentiveness
5.0
Quality of field time
5.0
I'm going to keep this review as concise as possible. I have to give this workshop 5 stars in all categories, anything less would be dishonest.
Our lecture went from 9am-1pm (4hrs). In-field was also 4hrs, but I think we may have started around 2:30.
From the lecture, I took comprehensive notes, but kept them organized. In total, approx. 7.5 pages.
I'm one of the two students who opted for the day two private lesson with Soul. We'll call the other student John.
What I thought of the lecture:
Soul is an excellent teacher, and his method is downright practical. Everything is organized and presented with the purpose that the students will be able to refer back to their notes from the lecture, and have all the key principles organized into bulleted lists, and diagrams where necessary. Soul's intent is to give his students a schematic that will guide them along as they progress, in the days/weeks/months after their workshop.
I don't know how well Soul thinks he is accomplishing his objective, so I'll say it right now: He has hit the mark dead on. Any student who simply makes the effort to jot down something for each portion of Soul's class, should have no problem putting together their own comprehensive lecture notes. Soul presents his info with itemized lists and repeats the lists so the students have enough time to get it noted. The diagrams of the LS triad model, which are drawn on the board, are simple and easy to understand.
What I thought of Soul's day game method:
I'm familiar with the writings of numerous well-known methods, especially those written for day game. Soul's method is simply more specific, more practical, and more natural, than the others I've seen. Some methods will be natural (non-scripted), but not specific in their guidance for the student. Soul's method doesn't have that issue. He gives his students a process they can use to develop their own, attraction-building, flowing, natural conversation style. He calls it conversation mapping. Conversation mapping is EXACTLY what I needed to help me with my problems with talking to women. I can approach total strangers and use any opener--I've never had a problem with that. My problem has always been running out of stuff to talk about, right after having opened the set. But now that I have taken this class, that problem is going away. It's not something you can learn in a day though; it takes time to develop your "mastery topics" (as they are called in this method) into maturity.
The method is easy to apply once you're in-field, because there's no routines or complicated processes to remember. It's all pretty simple to learn and apply, but takes time, effort, and practice, to master. Conversation mapping is a magical thing though... As I came to understand, it allows me to talk to girls about the things that are actually important to me!! I never thought I could do that! I had come to the conclusion that girls would never be interested in what I'm interested in, and that I'd always be isolated at parties and clubs. I thought the only guys who could talk to girls were the guys who could BS about pointless pop-culture drivel. Learning that this is not true, was an epiphany for me.
What I thought of the in-field training:
After we all arrived at the rally point, groups were set and instructors were assigned. John, Joe, and I, went with Soul and Morgan (who was interning, I think). John and I got to work with Soul a lot on day one. I got blown out quite a bit early on, which didn't bother me at all, but I was a little disappointed in myself after hearing how many of the other guys didn't get blown out in their early attempts. Also, a lot of the other guys got a lot more numbers than I did. I don't know what their target criteria was like compared to ours...
When we started walking with Soul, he told us we should approach girls that are our type. I was really happy to hear this, because I don't like giving compliments to girls if those compliments aren't genuine.
Here's the criteria that John and I used, and to me, this seemed to be in-line with what Soul expected of us:
target must be:
* our type of girl
* walking alone
* not talking on a cell phone
* not entering a very crowded store
Soul didn't tell us we couldn't do two-sets. He said he would help us with them if we wanted to do them, but he was cool with us not doing them, which made me happy.
I personally think that this criteria just generally makes sense. I know you can open a girl who's on a cell phone, but I'm learning this stuff still, and it's typically considered rude to interrupt people when they're on the phone, especially if you are a stranger.
Soul coached me a lot on my approach technique. It took me several tries to get better at all the little details. I have a tendency to not smile, so I had to work on that. My distance from the girl was too far, and I didn't always stand up straight. But by the end of the day, I was doing it all correctly! I even number closed a 9 (or maybe she was a 9.5 or 10)! I've been texting her, and now we've got a day two planned for the Friday after the Saturday that I number closed her.
The exhilaration you get after getting a number from a real hotty is amazing. I don't know if I've ever felt that good before in my life. And also, having friends there to share the high with is invaluable (words simply can't express).
About our day two:
So as stated above, I elected to pay for another 4hrs with Soul in a more personalized lesson. I was really happy to be out learning alongside John again.
I'm extremely happy that I decided to take the day two with Soul (and Whim came along too). I got to spend a lot of time talking with Soul and Whim about the questions I still had.
I number closed a fashionably-dressed art student, and a spunky indie rocker chick. The indie rocker was almost late for her bus because she was enjoying the conversation with me , and she had to sprint off to catch it. I remember Soul and John both being so excited for me after how well I did when talking to the art student. It was one of the best feelings in the world, to approach a total stranger, and have such a positive and fun conversation with her. And it also feels amazing when the girl expresses interest in meeting up again after the numbers are exchanged!
My summary:
This class was worth more than what I paid for it. I don't know if all the students got their money's worth though. As with any education, you get out what you put in. You can't spend loads of money on an engineering degree, do zero work, and expect to get your master's. I knew this going into the workshop, and I intended to get money's worth from it.
I got more out of this class than what I paid for it. I am soooo happy that I took this class, and also that I took the day two. It was life-changing for me. I feel so empowered.
During the in-field sessions, I would sometimes spot a girl down the street, on the other side, but that didn't mater. I could bolt out there, catch her, chat her up, have a great time doing it, and come back with her phone number!! It might not sound exhilarating to read about it, but that's how it felt doing it. It feels like having a super power.
I mostly worked with Soul, but I also got to spend a good amount of time with Bonsai, Starlight, Whim, and our interns, Sergio and Morgan. Everyone was very helpful, friendly, supportive, caring, and sincere. It was so incredible to be out on the street, learning with guys who actually care about how I'm doing. I've been in the lair scene before, and I can tell you that it is typically the complete opposite of what I experienced in this workshop.
I wish every guy could experience what I did that weekend.
It changed my life.
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